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Discussion in 'International Football' started by Super_horns, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. zippy

    zippy The friendly Fascist

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    Then, when he eventually retires he can be known as "Old" Trafford.
     
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    You're a moron.

    Irony is the senior side is loaded with young talent.
     
  3. Eaman

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    I said special as in going to be world class players. Maybe some of those attacking players you mentioned will but I don't see it yet. I'm just going on what I saw yesterday and performances for their clubs and none of those attackers stand out in the way most young players that go to the very top do
     
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    Ok I'm a moron because I'm not very impressed by any player on that pitch yesterday. Or maybe you're hurt because i dont highly rate more overrated english attacking players.Name a player in that England team yesterday that you think will be world class and have every team in the world wanting him
     
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    Didn't realise you meant world class when you said special. There's a bit of a difference there. World Class talent doesn't come around often for any national side really does it?
     
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    No it doesn't but you'd usually see one or 2 from 22 players in a big final
     
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    You're judging all these players on one game you weirdo.

    Also more of a moron for moving the goalposts on your "special talent" point. Go back to watching Messi comp videos on YouTube you taint.
     
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    I'm not the weirdo here based on the comments of both of us. Actually you seem like more of a psycho.Special talent and future world class player kinda goes hand in hand don't you think. Also what's wrong with saying I don't see any future superstars while watching a game. It's just an observation and I might very well be wrong in the future. So name a player on that field that you think will be? Most have played for their clubs already and are good but nothing special so far
     
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    Shut up weirdo.
     
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    To be fair, you're not going to see anyone at this level because if they are a 'special talent' as you put it, chances are they are fast tracked into the senior side.

    Spain and England contested the final and yet Gavi, Pedri, Eric Garcia, Nico Williams, Ferran Torres, Saka, Foden, Guehi, Bellingham would all have been eligible for this tournament if they weren't already involved in the senior squad.

    You have to go back a good ten years to see the last winning squad with genuine 'special' talent in it and that was Spain. And the only reason their u-21s were so talented was because there was no room for these guys at senior level who were winning everything at the time.

    The truth is, you aren't going to see the absolute best bar one or two every generation. So more fool you for expecting it :shrug
     
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    Super_horns WATFORD Till I Die
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    You can be sure if Southgate feels anyone is ready they will get a chance so that gives them hope.
     
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    You'd think every big national side was 23 world class footballers the way this guy goes on.

    End of the day this age class has reached 2 finals (u17, u21) in international competition and won 1. It's nothing to be scoffed at when a country hasn't won shit at national level. If just 4/5 players from this entire group became senior international regulars that is a success imo.
     
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    Ya thats true they usually are fast tracked and that's my point there was no one special looking out there the other day or any other day for their clubs. I suppose ya you'd find the special stand out players in the younger age groups like when foden won the world cup and was fast tracked.Now to be fair some players don't shine until their mid 20s and that might be the case with a few
     
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    Do you not think a goalkeeper not conceding a single goal for a whole international tournament is special? :laugh:
     
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    I think it is special that a goalkeeper and 4 defenders don't concede ya. But by special I mean a standout player on the pitch who will more than likely become a future star. And like it or not I was judging it on that one game and nobody stood out
     
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    Well done England. Carsley certainly taking lessons from Southgate in off-the-ball tactics. Attacking-wise, England are ok but managing the play without the ball is excellent and certainly head and shoulders above any other side in the tournament.
    We had a more talented side technically but our players don't possess tactical knowhow as no work was done by the management (Ripoll has been around for what it seems like a decade). Just because you're good on the ball doesn't mean you're going to win the whole thing. England proved that. Congratulations.
     
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    This is the problem. You've said a stupid comment and you've started to move the goalposts - but even so, as Akny pointed out, the future stars of this age group are in the senior side already. So it's just a silly point to make.

    Further compounded by the fact you have made it based off a single game of football.
     
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    Not a stupid comment and never moved the goalposts. I said there was no special or standout player on the pitch in that final and there wasn't. And if you mean I changed special to world class in the future as changing the goalposts I didn't because I kinda meant both by the looks of the final which is what I judged it on. I mean I could go back and look at the games I missed in that tournament and see some special performances and change my mind.It would've been wrong if I said none of those players will be worldclass but I didn't.
     
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    You've said "special talent" to "world class" to "future star" and now back to "world class". :laugh:

    Who are the special world class future super stars from the 2019 final Spain won? or 2017 when Spain reached the final? You said you expect to see 2 in a final.
     
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    Well none because a gooner made me realise they would be fast tracked to the senior side before that level and I agreed with him. Still you might find a few going back the years.
     

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