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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by StretfordEnd, Jan 24, 2022.

  1. PorkchopExpress

    PorkchopExpress The Blackfish

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    I bet you if you asked her to quote her favourite bible verse, she would refuse and say that's a private matter.
     
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    Tshabs Fears Heights

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    US House pushes ahead with $95bn foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan - Guardian

    Good on the Democrats.
     
  3. smogtilldeath

    smogtilldeath Registered User

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    You can try with all your might Marjorie , but I think putins micro penis is too small to fit in your mouth
     
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    sadly this war is already lost.

    the damage done last year and by western reticence to actually provide the proper weaponry early means the opportunity to win ot is gone

    any aid now is putting the proverbial finger in the dam.

    this is now down to what negotiated position will be possible.

    by the time this aid is provided and the materials actually arrive the thing could be irreversibly damaged and imo the number needed now is at least twice what's now been given

    we have to see reality here.
     
  5. StretfordEnd

    StretfordEnd Fools can be kings
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    Moscow Marjorie won't be happy.

     
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    They won't care.

    Putin is just waiting for trump.

    They will take all they can while the yanks dither about actually supplying weapons using a 60billion thats now far too small due to being delayed 4 months and once it arrives the Russians will just sit and wiat in defensive positions knowing ukraine can't go forward.

    Trump will be elected according to all polls so the Russians fully expect to have everything handed to them by trump who will simply cut everything off and slap massive trade tariffs on the eu amd China again.

    I'd actually expect putin to pause to refit then in 2 years smash over ukrain and Moldova too.
     
  9. Lugna rambler

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    Looks like the yanks have done massive damage and probably irreparable harm to the Ukrainian side and really the only option is to beg for terms.

    This has proven that Europe is utterly unprepared and putin has done it with North Korean shells. There's soldiers and cannon fodder from across euraisa being used to shoot the stocks dry and now the damage of nearly 5 months hold up off supply by the gop has absolutely assured that this war is lost.

    The time to pile in was the second the Russians faltered 2 years ago. Europa and USA refused tanks, refused to send aircraft etc etc and the opportunity passed.
     
  10. StretfordEnd

    StretfordEnd Fools can be kings
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    Nonsense.
     
  11. Lugna rambler

    Lugna rambler Registered User

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    Unfortunately it's not.

    The Americans have via Congress starved the Ukrainian armed forces of the ammunitions required for even defensive stance.

    There won't be any offensive Ukrainian actions this year and it's now highly likely they will be cut off come january when trump gets in as the polls strongly suggest.

    Russia is weak but Europe simply isn't ready for this and generally unwilling to get ready.

    Worse the propagandist social.media platforms are being exploited across Europe to drive unrest and we are seeing pro Russia governments emerge within the eu plus we are seeing Polish farmers etc block the Ukrainian border and unrest form within.

    Ukraine cannot win this war. Its now only a matter of time with the threat of trump over their heads.
     

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