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CARABAO CUP 2023/24

Discussion in 'Domestic Cups' started by NotsoPosh, Jun 22, 2023.

  1. MrLeeLemon

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    @A Gooner Sorry but if you think those should be pulled up then we will have fouls on near enough every set piece delivery into the box. It's a contact sport buddy.
     
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    Nothing unusual there mate ,they were quiet the last time we met in the big yard.
     
  3. A Gooner

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    It is a contact sport and you do get contact all the time in these situations. But most of the time, it's between players trying to gain an advantageous position to play the ball.

    Endo has his back to goal, is looking directly at Colwill and not the ball and made no attempt to play the ball with his actions. That's why it's a foul. He wasn't subtle enough with his attempt to stop Colwill.

    This is not NFL. We can't allow the sport to change so you now have players purely in the box to just stop attackers from running. All duels in football is based on trying to play the football.
     
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    Imagine looking at the state of officiating in football right now and thinking we need even more reasons to give soft fouls to influence games. You do you. I look forward to the next game of football I watch and that happening at near enough every set piece and it going completely unnoticed and unpunished.
     
  5. Muller

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    The biggest issue I have with it is that it happens literally every game and it rarely gets given the consistency is stupidly bad. I have no doubt it is factually the right call but I feel like the fact it was a cup final made them scrutinize it more if that's a random league game that doesn't get ruled out imo.
     
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    So if Endo has a quick momentary glance at the ball it isn't a foul? Give over. :laugh:
     
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    I think what Endo does is actually quite rare. A lot of players are cleverer with it. More subtle. Better at cheating basically.

    If you stand there staring at the guy you are going to block, don't look at the ball and make no attempt to play the ball, you're making it quite easy for a foul to be called on you.

    And that's what happened yesterday. I mean he wasn't even smart enough to make sure he was onside before trying to block an opponent :laugh:
     
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    I guess the reason they didn't give this a foul was because Joelinton stared at the ball.

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    Yeah I don't disagree with you on the actual foul just the consistency as I say. Thought the Chelsea disallowed one was more contentious myself looked like he was onside tbh.
     
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    He's clearly offside if you look at an in-line image Muller.
     
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    My first reaction was onside. But Sky showed another angle at half time that wasn't in the decision making process that showed a clearer offside.
     
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    Literally had his arms wrapped around Salah at one point. It's alright though because Gabriel looked at the ball. :laugh:

     
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    I mean....I think that's a foul. So what point are you trying to make? :laugh:

    I don't know why you're so outraged because someone thinks it's correct and have presented logic for their opinion.
     
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    As always it is about consistency and if refs decide they aren't fouls one week then they shouldn't certainly decide to do so when they fancy. And if they start pulling them up we will have penalties and goals chalked off every game until the contact part of the sport is completely pushed out the game. What a misery.
     
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    There's a difference between a player being overzealous trying to win the ball off a shielding opponent and a player point blank blocking an opponent and not even attempting to play the ball, let alone win it.

    You're still failing to grasp that what Endo did was too far. Now when I say too far, I don't mean overly physical or violent. I mean too far in how blatant he was in making no attempt to play the ball and stopping Colwill.

    It's a foul because of that. It is a sliding scale of subjectivity and there is a large grey area but when you are making it so obvious to the world with what you are doing, you run the risk of being penalised.

    It's not about removing contact. Contact is fine. Deliberately blocking a player from running to play the ball is not fine.
     
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    An observation from September. It seems the officials are changing their minds mid-season again.

    They are definitely fouls, but they have to call up more of them instead of picking and choosing, like they do with pretty much everything these days.
     
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    Fairs I've not seen that since tbf only the angle they played on the replays.
     
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