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Discussion in 'The Euros '21' started by Taffy, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. StretfordEnd

    StretfordEnd Fools can be kings
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    I'm not a Mason Mount fan but he's given this little girl a memory she'll treasure for the rest of her life!

    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

     
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    cpfc1905 Pride of South London

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    God I love this team so so much. You couldn't wish for better people representing the country
     
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    RedDev Back from a long break.

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    It wasn't a free-kick regardless of the wall encroachment as well.

    I think given our dominance we'd have scored regardless. Especially when you consider they went down to 10 men.

    By the end of the game, England on the balance of play deserved to win.
     
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    It was a free kick but the Danish players looked like they may have got within one metre of the England wall (it's difficult to see for sure based on the camera views I've seen but it does look like they were too close), which interfered with Pickfords view so yeah the goal should have been disallowed and the free kick retaken.

    England did deserve to win, I'm not disputing that. I've just been arguing that their penalty should not have been given :shrug
     
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    So as not to humiliate another player just as good as him.

     
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    Blimey mate , give your head a wobble , no one was humiliated . I love Jack as much as the next Villa fan .This is about England and not Villa .It worked didn't it ?
     
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    @TRS-T Grealish isn't going to shag you
     
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    Si Robin Cheltenham Spa - Ra ra ra

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    Lampard's goal would have made it 2-2. Germany were a very young team at the time and very much on the ropes. The goal being disallowed gave them the opportunity to fully regroup at half-time.

    I'm not saying England would have won that game - God knows they were awful in that tournament - but no-one can say for certain that Germany would have gone on to win at a canter like they did.
     
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    I was just looking at the petition to get the game replayed (haven't signed it for the record).

    Some interesting signatories though.

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    I was just referring to them falling over Dirk!

    Your English is good.

    I'd be willing to wager that 90% of those signatures were Scottish, to be honest.

    And we also have Kyle Walker.
     
  11. Dirk

    Dirk Achtung!

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    what....if....when. For me, the 2010 Germany was maybe the best team we had under Löw. Yes they peaked only 4 years later with a 7-1 win against Brazil in the semis and a later (lucky) 1-0 win in the final against Messi's Argentina.

    But this 2010 team was so promising. 4-1 against England in the last 16 match, then even 4-0 against Messi's Argentina in the quarter-final.
    Unfortunately for us that Spain was 2010 the best team in the world and peaked itself and won their (only) World Cup.
    So we lost the semi-final 0-1 against them. And won in a fantastic third place match against Uruguay 3-2 (often the third place matches are better than the finals because there's not a lot of pressure anymore. The 2010 final between Spain and Netherlands was a dirty match, mainly because of the Dutch playing brutal football, totally unusual for them).

    So, yes, the Lampard goal was a goal (unlike the 3-2 Wembley goal in 1966). But even when it had been counted and England would have equalised 2-2 I'm sure we would've beaten you anyway as Germany was too good for you at that day. And vice versa I'm also sure that if the 3-2 Wembley goal wouldn't have counted that you would've beaten us anyway in 1966.
    It is good as it had been coming in 1966 and 2010. After 1966 we were in 12 finals overall and after the 2010 match we had the nucleus of the team that won the World Cup 2014. It's part of the rich "football folklore" between our 2 nations.

    Anyway, back to the final on Sunday:

    The Italians, who didn't even qualify for the 2018 World Cup have learnt their lesson from it.
    Unbeaten since then, 33 matches. Unbelievable feat. But they're due now to lose one.
    And Italy knows how it is to lose an Euro final:
    The old fighters, Chiellini and Bonucci, are the two survivors of the 2012 Euro final in which Spain won 4-0 against the Squadra Azzura. They will do everything to revert the humiliation back then.
    Good luck, England
     
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    When you take off a sub, that is humiliation. And I would feel the same way if this happened to Foden btw.

    I felt the same way when Tuchel did it to Hudson-Odoi. There's just no need to treat a player like that.

    Just because we got the end result, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.
     
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    The Grealish thing would only be an issue if we'd lost. We didn't, we went on to control the game and piss our way to the final. It was a good decision and well done JG for reacting in the right way :clap:
     
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    Hudson-Odois sub/sub by Tuchel was a humiliation type of situation, and if I remember right Tuchel said something about asking him to do certain things and he wasn’t doing them so he was pulled. Being taken off for a tactical change once the game had changed is fine and is only really questionable if you then lose your lead. The change was made so we wouldn’t. We didn’t. Change justified.
     
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    I’m getting a little bit peeved at the pearl-clutching by cosmopolitan moralists about the booing of the anthems. I really don’t care. This is football not the cenotaph.
     
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    powerage Let There Be Rock!

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    I've followed the game for 25 years and I'm still a pup compared to a lot of people and I respect that. What I can't respect is every aspect of social media making out that all England fans are scum and that this is new behaviour because they've never been exposed to real football in their lives.

    The fact I've seen people almost demanding Italy of all countries to beat us in the final is just comical.

    I'm 100% against booing national anthems but at the same time it's football, I know what I've signed up for.
     
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    Even if thousands boo Italy's anthem on Sunday, you'll probably still be able to hear Chiellini singing it :laugh:
     
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